This Wall
Street Mess. From both sides.
Did you miss
it? See it here The Sarah Palin Interview by Charles Gibson
4 parts
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Election 2008
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Please answer the
following questions to see where you agree or disagree with Barack Obama:
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I consider Dave Lander a
friend. Not because we agree on everything but because we can talk
about anything without screaming and yelling. We both have opinions
and neither of us are afraid to share them. Makes for some lively
debate and if they were filmed... Well, you would not want to hear
some of what was said.
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When you look at
Daves site it is clear he
is for Obama. Dave scored 30% against Obama
(or 70% for Obama)
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I took it. My
score was 93% against Obama. (Or, 7% for Obama.)
Take it yourself if
you like and I will post your score. (with or without your
name.) Send us the results.
mcouncil@caltel.com
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Be warned. You may not
like some of what you read here. We both feel pretty strongly about
America and we know the country has a lot of problems. We just have
some different opinions of what needs to be done and who it is that
ought to be doing it.
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My wife Patti
scored 98% against Obama (Or 2% for) She is trying to figure
out what that 2% is. Trying to get her to take the IQ test. |
The McCain, Obama IQ test
is interesting. It shows that I know a little more about McCain then
I do Obama. Guess I need to learn a little more. Maybe Dave can help
me. Come on Dave get in here and tell us some results. Find an Obama
video you like.
I did this little thing
after that lipstick comment that was all over the news and forums
across the country.
Obama, Palin, lipstick, pig... What's next- Dave don't
like it. He said he was going to write something up. Good, I want to
read it, and I am sure others want to too.
From Dave
A lot of
people make up their mind on which candidate to vote for based on
sound bites taken out context, outright lies told by one political
party or the other, who wears a lapel pin and any one of a dozen
other useless bits of unproven things they have heard.
There
are quite a few people that plan on voting for McCain based on his
skin color, his service in Viet Nam or his “maverick” image. On
the first point, McCain’s skin color isn’t as important as his
real color – green, he is truly out of touch with what it takes to
support a family and probably has no idea (or doesn’t care) what
the average American worker earns.
As far
as his service in Viet Nam and five and a half years as a POW I
won’t deny him his sacrifice, but as a Viet Nam vet myself I find
it strange that McCain has voted against every increase that has
been proposed for veteran benefits. McCain’s being a Navy pilot is
also not something he worked for like many other pilots that were
in Viet Nam did. He was accepted into Annapolis because his father
was an Admiral. And finally on the last point – McCain is no
“maverick” unless that means towing the Bush Party line, voting 90
per cent as Bush wanted. Not to mention being out of touch with
the economic problems in our Country, he has admitted he doesn’t
know much about economics. Fine, so he gets an advisor - who does
he pick? Phil Gramm, one of the fiscal
gurus of the Republican Party responsible for the mortgage crisis
that has cost many people their homes (OK they should have read
the fine print – but they were granted loans that no reasonable
lender would have permitted) and now it will cost the tax payers
billions to bail out the two private lenders Fannie and Freddie
Mac, where the execs got ridiculous bonuses while times were good
and they are still overpaid now that we are stuck with the fiasco
they created.
From the
preceding diatribe you can pretty much guess that I am voting for
Obama. Do I think that he will solve all our problems? No, but I
don’t think he’ll add to them the way a third Bush term will.
Investing in America the way he suggests will at the very least
provide some jobs (beside McDonalds or
WalMart) as far as many of the other issues are concerned
he is at least discussing them. The McCain/Palin
campaign hasn’t offered any solutions to our problems except to
make permanent the tax cuts they gave to those that need them
least the rich. They are now spending their funds putting
out ads like the one with Obama saying “If you put lipstick on a
pig etc.” Which was taken from video footage
where Obama was talking about McCain’s fiscal policies being more
of the same that we got from Bush’s first 2 terms.
The
McCain/Palin campaign hasn’t offered
any solutions to our problems except to make permanent the tax
cuts they gave to those that need them least, the rich. They are
now spending their funds putting out ads like the one with Obama
saying “If you put lipstick on a pig etc.”
Which was taken from video footage where Obama was talking about
McCain’s fiscal policies being more of the same that we got from
Bush’s first 2 terms.
Dave Lander
And I say.
I am mad at President
Bush and John McCain too. I didn't like the way they tried to shove
that immigration reform down the throat of the American people.
But my anger at them is
not going to make me vote for Obama or anyone else that wants to do
the things that Obama wants to do.
Basically he wants to
take from the rich and give to the poor, kind of a Robin Hood thing.
Only we ain't in Jolly Old England and this ain't no movie.
Obama kind of likes
that term "From each according to his ability and to each according
to his need". That's a Karl Marx thing. We don't need that in
America.
(Obamanomics
101: For Useful Idiots)
He wants to tax the hell
out of anybody who makes more money then he thinks they should make,
then he wants to have control over what happens with that money.
He wants to create a
Youth Corps that in his own words " Will be as powerful as the
military, as powerful as the Marine Corps." I don't like where
he is going with that.
Like all politicians he
talks about the issues just enough to get people interested. What
people need to look at is his true goals.
He has hung around with
and been helped by some pretty shady characters in his political
career. Some of them about as Anti-American as a person can get. You
know what they say. lay down with dogs you wake up with fleas. ( Yes a
person could take that out of context.) I have seen him scratching.
I have heard his words and I have seen his true vision of America.
It is not a place a freedom loving people are going to be
comfortable in.
A lot of what you say is
true Dave. I would like to lock up some of those Mortgage Brokers
and crooked Bankers, (
Communal
Safety Nets For All ) but that is not going to happen until we get
rid of the crooked politicians. I think McCain and Palin will do
that. I know for damn sure Obama won't.
Mike Council
If anybody out there
wants to chip in feel free.
mcouncil@caltel.com Don't worry if your spelling is bad we will
run it through a spell checker. It's the opinion that counts.
An interesting site.
Native
Americans Against Obama ^
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This
test told me I was a Socialist. at a 43% score
John
McCain came in at 40%
Barack
Obama got 33%
I want
to make sure I vote for the right person but I sure as hell
aint voting socialist.
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This is a fast one with good
questions.
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Mike
Council
Profile: 8% Obama, 92% McCain
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The results are in, and John McCain is definitely your choice.
You're probably not surprised. It's possible you've had your eye on McCain for years.
Popular or not, you will likely stick by McCain. For you, it's a matter of principle.
And besides, there's something exciting about rooting for the underdog!
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Dave says;
Washington Post
(David Ignatius) Stopping at nothing to win: Thinking about
the Palin choice, you begin to ponder other moves McCain has
made on the road to winning the Republican nomination. McCain
was right a few years ago to warn that Bush's tax cuts would
have potentially ruinous fiscal consequences; now he favors
extending the cuts that have produced a crisis of debt and
deficit. Why did he switch his position, other than political
opportunism? In May 2006, after McCain had courted the Rev.
Jerry Falwell in an effort to win conservative support, I
asked him if he was bending his principles for the sake of
winning. "I don't want it that badly," McCain answered. "I
will continue to do what is right if that means I can't get
the Republican nomination, fine. I've had a happy life. The
worst thing I can do is sell my soul to the devil." He was
right.
LINK
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Mike says;
Of course McCain wants to win. So does
Obama. Both sides will do whatever they can to get the big
prize. I read a lot of articles, some better then others.
This one is good.
On financial crisis a confused Obama blames Biden for
“Shredding consumer protections”
"Recently Obama claimed membership in
the Senate’s Banking Committee. He described how “My
committee.. just this past week.. [passed a bill]… for
divestment from Iran as a way of ratcheting up the pressure to
ensure that they don’t obtain a nuclear weapon.”
"Of course this was a clumsy pander to
Jewish voters, but it is still worse. Obama is not a member of
the Senate Banking Committee. In political speak he misspoke,
but he lied. Either way he showed he still doesn’t understand
the Senate, because it’s above his pay grade."
I think a lot of stuff is above his
pay grade.
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